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Soren's Age
Not going to backdate these unless people want me to, as I don't expect to be pouring out a lot of Soren meta all at once and some of this might be novel.
Warnings, of course, for extensive PoR and RD spoilers.
We begin with the Tellius artbook, whose information I must unfortunately take as word-of-mouth. If I had it I would scan the relevant information for you. I really would. Ike is 17 and Mist is 14. Hooray. That was easy!
Check out this snippet from Path of Radiance. Caineghis puts Greil's departure from Gallia to beroughly over ten years ago. (Or "over" ten years ago according to the English, but we can take that to be accurate within a year given FE's track record. Note that much more than over ten years would put Mist at an age where she can't talk as fluently as she does in Ike's memory scene.) So, at the time Greil left Gallia, Ike was 7.
EDIT 11/22/12: My original impression from the Japanese is correct -- it does indeed say "over". However, I stand by the assertion that it couldn't have been much over ten years.
RD Ike/Soren Base conversation. Soren recounts that the day they met was right before Greil's rampage. I think it is not unreasonable to say that canon implies that left Gallia very shortly after thiat incident. So Ike was roughly 7 when he met Soren.
Now we go over to Soren's side of things. Let us assume that Soren is roughly correct about how old he was when certain things happened. Then a couple of lines from PoR Ike/Soren B support go a long way:
"When I was about four, a nearby sage came by and asked to take me in."
"When the sage died two years later ..."
And no longer than a few weeks after that, Soren would walk over to the village and meet Ike. Soren is roughly six at the time.
EDIT 8/18/11: It occurs to me that Ike's absolute age is not necessary. The Incident happened 10 years before PoR. Soren was about 6 during The Incident. Done.
So, the conclusion is simple. Soren is roughly a year younger than Ike. Ike is 17 at the start of Path of Radiance (the year 645). Manipulate numbers as necessary to find his age at the relevant point.
You might think that Soren's age can be taken for granted as something similar to Ike's, but fics love making Soren in his twenties for Path of Radiance the moment they find out that Soren doesn't age like we might expect. I am leaving this public, in fact, because I am tired of constantly rehashing this argument.
The figure of sixteen~seventeen during PoR matches up pretty well with Soren's remark to Stefan in their PoR A support,
Stefan: You may have already started to notice. We age differently than the beorc. Of course, the specifics of it depend on the type of laguz blood that flows in your veins.
Soren: I thought I was aging normally... Well, until about three years ago.
The Japanese, for those who care, says the same thing as far as we're concerned. (Will put up link when I translate that support.)
That would put him physically right before puberty (13~14), which in turn goes well with various people thinking he's a kid. (For example, the slightly unnerving fact that you can recruit Devdan with him -- and Devdan gives his usual "Children shouldn't be on the battlefield".)
Warnings, of course, for extensive PoR and RD spoilers.
We begin with the Tellius artbook, whose information I must unfortunately take as word-of-mouth. If I had it I would scan the relevant information for you. I really would. Ike is 17 and Mist is 14. Hooray. That was easy!
Check out this snippet from Path of Radiance. Caineghis puts Greil's departure from Gallia to be
EDIT 11/22/12: My original impression from the Japanese is correct -- it does indeed say "over". However, I stand by the assertion that it couldn't have been much over ten years.
RD Ike/Soren Base conversation. Soren recounts that the day they met was right before Greil's rampage. I think it is not unreasonable to say that canon implies that left Gallia very shortly after thiat incident. So Ike was roughly 7 when he met Soren.
Now we go over to Soren's side of things. Let us assume that Soren is roughly correct about how old he was when certain things happened. Then a couple of lines from PoR Ike/Soren B support go a long way:
"When I was about four, a nearby sage came by and asked to take me in."
"When the sage died two years later ..."
And no longer than a few weeks after that, Soren would walk over to the village and meet Ike. Soren is roughly six at the time.
EDIT 8/18/11: It occurs to me that Ike's absolute age is not necessary. The Incident happened 10 years before PoR. Soren was about 6 during The Incident. Done.
So, the conclusion is simple. Soren is roughly a year younger than Ike. Ike is 17 at the start of Path of Radiance (the year 645). Manipulate numbers as necessary to find his age at the relevant point.
You might think that Soren's age can be taken for granted as something similar to Ike's, but fics love making Soren in his twenties for Path of Radiance the moment they find out that Soren doesn't age like we might expect. I am leaving this public, in fact, because I am tired of constantly rehashing this argument.
The figure of sixteen~seventeen during PoR matches up pretty well with Soren's remark to Stefan in their PoR A support,
Stefan: You may have already started to notice. We age differently than the beorc. Of course, the specifics of it depend on the type of laguz blood that flows in your veins.
Soren: I thought I was aging normally... Well, until about three years ago.
The Japanese, for those who care, says the same thing as far as we're concerned. (Will put up link when I translate that support.)
That would put him physically right before puberty (13~14), which in turn goes well with various people thinking he's a kid. (For example, the slightly unnerving fact that you can recruit Devdan with him -- and Devdan gives his usual "Children shouldn't be on the battlefield".)
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