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Ammie ([personal profile] amielleon) wrote2011-09-19 10:41 pm
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Meta Month 20 - Baseless Fears

This post is about Ike/Soren, but at heart, I think it is about how tropes lose their power and how to restore that power to them.

But I'm really just writing about Ike/Soren here.




There is an extremely common type of Ike/Soren story, in which Soren is afraid of something (generally something that will adversely affect his relationship with Ike), the truth comes out one way or another to Ike, and Ike's reaction is extremely favorable and proves all Soren's fears wrong. I blame A support.

There are alternatives. Ike could leave for no apparent reason, or Soren could literally choke to death on his imagination, or Ike could say something uncharacteristic justified by the heat of the moment. All amounting to the suggestion that Ike would never ever ever ever have any reason to behaves as Soren fears. Soren's fears are just irrational baseless phantoms! And then Soren's happy and they make out or whatever. At one point I liked this type of hurt-comfort, as evidenced by my ability to draw up quite that many non-recent samples on a whim. I, uh, even wrote one. Or maybe a few.

But here's the thing -- and I speak not as a reader of any one of these stories, but as a reader following this pairing who has been presented only with these things again and again. The overall effect suggests that Soren doesn't really have any reason to worry about the health of his only interpersonal relationship. He is being silly. This is his one crazy groundless emotional weakness.

It is not outside of the human psyche to be worried about something logically ridiculous, but it's a problem in terms of storytelling power. The presentation of this fear as completely baseless depowers it. Soren grew up with a woman who treated him as a burden, a sage who found him inadequate, a village that stoned him without provocation, and a country of laguz who shot him looks of disgust before denying his existence. There's a pattern to his story. He's going to see these patterns in his story. And it's very powerful to him.

Now a writer might go "Yes, we know, that's why there are paragraphs of Soren lamenting his life of woe in these stories," and yes, this is again true -- on a single-story level.

But this is not how the reader experiences them. The reader has seen my-caretakers-and-the-laguz-hated-me a thousand times. The reader has been conditioned to expect that flood of but-ike-is-different paragraphs at the end. Even if written compellingly from Soren's point of view, at heart the reader knows that Ike will never reject Soren, and if Soren can work up the courage to confess everything will be okay.

It's so antithetical to the way Soren experiences that anxiety and confession. I think the perpetual retelling of this arc has effectively robbed it of what truly makes it compelling.

On a side note, it also suggests that Ike is okay with Soren, always, unconditionally, just because. I am not okay with that implication. Ike sticks to his principles, and no two people ever have quite the same beliefs. People can and do get over their differences, but they are not without their sources of conflict. The game itself presents us with one major difference in beliefs between them, and while Ike literally calls out every other instance of racism, Soren's goes unchallenged. I think the game wants to excuse Soren because his racism stems from trauma and not ignorance, and I am not okay with that implication either.

And so, after seeing the most recent "Soren is afraid, Soren confesses, Ike soothes his fears" story, I decided* that it might be interesting to write a fic in which Soren's fears are realized. To put the fear back into his fears. It isn't a major rift and Ike is going to leave him forever. It doesn't need to be. It's just enough to prove his fears justified, to him, and scare the shit out of him. It's these moments that make Ike's ultimate acceptance mean more.

* Actually I should credit WET NOODLES, who said she anticipated that said story would be about an actual rejection -- and was terribly disappointed. I found the idea interesting.

[identity profile] hooves.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wet Noodles is indeed a badass. Sadly I do not know her :P But lolol @ disappointment

Baaaasically this is really, really good. I agree completely etc and blah, and stop making me want to write Soren. You make him sound more interesting every time you post on him. :|

TBH I would rather leave the Sorening to you. You do it so well. =P
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[personal profile] raphiael 2011-09-20 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's the Ike aspect, rather than the Soren, that bugs me about this. And it has bugged me, in the little Ike/Soren I've read, though I haven't been able to uhm, put it into words or pin it down I guess.

But yes. Ike is not an all-forgiving saint of a man. Nor is he psychic. If anything, he's a bit more oblivious than most. I don't see any reason why he would magically know why Soren would exhibit a trait he takes serious issue with elsewhere, or really with a lot of other things Soren might do. Canon might not really touch on it, but I think the possibility is absolutely there. Refusing to acknowledge it time after time not only makes Soren look like an irrationally paranoid weirdo when he has good backing for his fears, but also renders Ike much blander than he could be.

[identity profile] xirysa.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like I'm everywhere tonight. :P

THE BROWNFLUENCE. IT SPREADS.

[identity profile] xirysa.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
I swear, every Soren post you make makes me want to play the Tellius games even more.

It is not outside of the human psyche to be worried about something logically ridiculous, but it's a problem in terms of storytelling power. The presentation of this fear as completely baseless depowers it.

Obviously, I can't say much about Soren here, but I'm really glad that you made this observation, since it pertains, really, to every piece of writing or media you see, and just really helps to emphasize how closely related characterization and storytelling ability are intertwined. Staying in the fandom bubble, so to speak, Lucius and Priscilla are examples of characters who frequently fall into this pit, and I'm also very much reminded of Mark's earlier post regarding Lyn.

[identity profile] xirysa.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Lucius and Priscilla just happened to be the first ones I thought of off the top of my head, just because what I've been working on as of late is focused on them, but I think any character at all does, to some extent, fall into the situation you mentioned above. For example, I don't even know how many fics out there portray Priscilla as a neurotic brother stalker with a murderous intent to get Lucius' head on a silver platter. Well, maybe not the latter half of that statement, but a lot of the fic out there about Priscilla focuses a lot on her relationship with Raven--which makes sense, because their relationship is a huge part of how she is. But, like you mentioned with Ike and Soren, there are lots of alternatives to explain that interaction/relationship between the two aside from the apparent stock of, "all Prissy wants to do is get in her darling lord brother's pants", which eventually gets turned into the suggestion that Priscilla's also mentally unstable. Not exactly the same as Soren's fears regarding his interaction with Ike, but something in a semi-similar vein.

Hopefully, that made sense. Otherwise, I just might've misunderstood what you said, so if that's what happened, sorry. ^^

[identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's the Ike aspect, rather than the Soren, that bugs me about this. And it has bugged me, in the little Ike/Soren I've read, though I haven't been able to uhm, put it into words or pin it down I guess.

This. A poorly-written Soren is at least something actively objectionable, but even a mediocre Ike, especially in a formula story, is often just... so terribly uninspiring. There is nothing to hold my interest as a reader.

[identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it is about how tropes lose their power and how to restore that power to them.

Interesting. Bears more thought.

I think this plays into my utter lack of interest in ANYONE's novelization of Lyn's Tale at this point-- we know what happens. We know she gets there and things are fine. If she doesn't, as in "Guile" or "The Crimson Knight," then there's a story, but the basic tale has been told so many times (especially the first two chapters of it) that even a skillfully-told, fleshed-out version has a diminished impact. There are no stakes, because the ending is foreordained, and the chances of an FE7 writer actually maiming or killing a character at the outset, or allowing for mistakes to be made, are pretty low... especially if Mr. Tactician is center stage.

I suppose there are exceptions out there, somewhere, but I can't think of anything that truly broke the mold without diverging from the canonical plot.